Comments on: Is Your State RLC Constructive or Destructive? http://www.ktracy.com/2009/is-your-state-rlc-constructive-or-destructive/ and his most excellent contributors Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:13:34 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: briand http://www.ktracy.com/2009/is-your-state-rlc-constructive-or-destructive/comment-page-1/#comment-1007 briand Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:33:55 +0000 http://www.ktracy.com/?p=290#comment-1007 No Aaron you are wrong. When congressmen form groups they call them caucuses. Such as the black congressional caucus or the women's caucus. The group in congress is in fact called the Liberty Caucus. The Liberty Committee is a group of citizens that support the congressional group, not the actual congressmen. You need to get your facts straight. No Aaron you are wrong. When congressmen form groups they call them caucuses. Such as the black congressional caucus or the women’s caucus. The group in congress is in fact called the Liberty Caucus. The Liberty Committee is a group of citizens that support the congressional group, not the actual congressmen. You need to get your facts straight.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.ktracy.com/2009/is-your-state-rlc-constructive-or-destructive/comment-page-1/#comment-949 Aaron Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:26:13 +0000 http://www.ktracy.com/?p=290#comment-949 Brian, you're totally incorrect. The Liberty Committee is a different group than the Republican Liberty Caucus. Please get your facts straight before misrepresenting either group. Brian, you’re totally incorrect. The Liberty Committee is a different group than the Republican Liberty Caucus. Please get your facts straight before misrepresenting either group.

]]> By: Sean Grebey http://www.ktracy.com/2009/is-your-state-rlc-constructive-or-destructive/comment-page-1/#comment-948 Sean Grebey Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:32:32 +0000 http://www.ktracy.com/?p=290#comment-948 Let's clear a few things up. The Republican Liberty Caucus has been around since 1991. It's not a new organization, nor is it the Ron Paul Republicans. It is libertarian Republicans. While Ron Paul certainly had and has followers in the organization, the organization itself didn't endorse him at the national level in the last presidential election. That said, the issues in Florida have not been the RPOF versus the RLC. It has been the RPOF versus certain individuals, some of whom have been members of the RLC. Frankly, people on both sides IMHO have acted excessively childish and destructive to the state and local parties. That said, if you want to know about the RLC in Florida, I would suggest you check out their annual legislation drive, which is really what the organization is about, not some intra-party feuds some people are participating in. The organization was for example responsible for getting an amendment on the ballot changing Florida eminent domain laws after Kelo versus New London to protect property owners from similiar actions in Florida. Let’s clear a few things up. The Republican Liberty Caucus has been around since 1991. It’s not a new organization, nor is it the Ron Paul Republicans. It is libertarian Republicans. While Ron Paul certainly had and has followers in the organization, the organization itself didn’t endorse him at the national level in the last presidential election.

That said, the issues in Florida have not been the RPOF versus the RLC. It has been the RPOF versus certain individuals, some of whom have been members of the RLC. Frankly, people on both sides IMHO have acted excessively childish and destructive to the state and local parties.

That said, if you want to know about the RLC in Florida, I would suggest you check out their annual legislation drive, which is really what the organization is about, not some intra-party feuds some people are participating in. The organization was for example responsible for getting an amendment on the ballot changing Florida eminent domain laws after Kelo versus New London to protect property owners from similiar actions in Florida.

]]> By: Isaac http://www.ktracy.com/2009/is-your-state-rlc-constructive-or-destructive/comment-page-1/#comment-946 Isaac Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:37:38 +0000 http://www.ktracy.com/?p=290#comment-946 I don't know what the RLC is like elsewhere, but the Florida RLC has been nothing but a boon to the conservative movement. We support candidates like Rubio, Dockery, etc which seek to bring the Republican party back to its Reagan roots. There are elements of the RLC which seek to pull it well beyond even Ron Paul. Luckily, those are few. Maybe they all got together in Indiana :P I don’t know what the RLC is like elsewhere, but the Florida RLC has been nothing but a boon to the conservative movement. We support candidates like Rubio, Dockery, etc which seek to bring the Republican party back to its Reagan roots. There are elements of the RLC which seek to pull it well beyond even Ron Paul. Luckily, those are few. Maybe they all got together in Indiana :P

]]> By: briand http://www.ktracy.com/2009/is-your-state-rlc-constructive-or-destructive/comment-page-1/#comment-939 briand Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:33:50 +0000 http://www.ktracy.com/?p=290#comment-939 They may also be using the name now but the group in congress has been using it since back in the eighties which I am sure pre-dates this group. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Committee How many Ron Paul organizations are there and how many does one need? Well on further examination CFL claims to be non-partisan, while RLC is decidedly Republican. But if the choice is between McCainiacs like Lindsay Graham "I will not let this party be hijacked by Ron Paul" and Ron Paul, I prefer to see it hijacked by Ron Paul. They may also be using the name now but the group in congress has been using it since back in the eighties which I am sure pre-dates this group.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Committee
How many Ron Paul organizations are there and how many does one need?
Well on further examination CFL claims to be non-partisan, while RLC is decidedly Republican. But if the choice is between McCainiacs like Lindsay Graham “I will not let this party be hijacked by Ron Paul” and Ron Paul, I prefer to see it hijacked by Ron Paul.

]]> By: kevintracy http://www.ktracy.com/2009/is-your-state-rlc-constructive-or-destructive/comment-page-1/#comment-938 kevintracy Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:58:19 +0000 http://www.ktracy.com/?p=290#comment-938 Eric, I just looked at the voting totals... currently the "Don't ban them" vote is higher than the "Kick them out" vote. I'm not sure what you're complaining about. Eric, I just looked at the voting totals… currently the “Don’t ban them” vote is higher than the “Kick them out” vote. I’m not sure what you’re complaining about.

]]> By: kevintracy http://www.ktracy.com/2009/is-your-state-rlc-constructive-or-destructive/comment-page-1/#comment-937 kevintracy Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:11:29 +0000 http://www.ktracy.com/?p=290#comment-937 Wrong Republican Liberty Caucus, Brian. <a href = "http://www.rlc.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rlc.org/</a> Haha, don't worry about it though. The fact that you've never heard of them kind of testifies to their insignificance in the grand scheme of things. Wrong Republican Liberty Caucus, Brian.
http://www.rlc.org/

Haha, don’t worry about it though. The fact that you’ve never heard of them kind of testifies to their insignificance in the grand scheme of things.

]]> By: kevintracy http://www.ktracy.com/2009/is-your-state-rlc-constructive-or-destructive/comment-page-1/#comment-936 kevintracy Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:08:14 +0000 http://www.ktracy.com/?p=290#comment-936 Eric, Absolutely not. This is a national blog. I have spent more of the last 10 years out of Indiana than in Indiana and as a result, my readership is based largely in Texas, California, and Virginia. While it's true that Indiana is more highly represented than most other states, my readership is by no means representative of Indiana's mainline Republicans. A lot of times, local people make the mistake of assuming that I'm an Indiana specific blogger, but I'm really not. Eric,
Absolutely not. This is a national blog. I have spent more of the last 10 years out of Indiana than in Indiana and as a result, my readership is based largely in Texas, California, and Virginia. While it’s true that Indiana is more highly represented than most other states, my readership is by no means representative of Indiana’s mainline Republicans. A lot of times, local people make the mistake of assuming that I’m an Indiana specific blogger, but I’m really not.

]]> By: briand http://www.ktracy.com/2009/is-your-state-rlc-constructive-or-destructive/comment-page-1/#comment-934 briand Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:34:10 +0000 http://www.ktracy.com/?p=290#comment-934 Republican Liberty Caucus is a group of Republican congressmen. It has about tem members and Ron Paul is not the leader. Joe Scarborough was a member of this group when he was in congress. Campaign for Liberty is the actual card carrying Ron Paul group and they do not try to hide the fact that they would like to transform the Republican party into a constitutionist, limited government party. If they are kicked out they will probably join the Libertarians or start some other third party and work against the Repulicans and you will continue to loose elections. If you leave them in they will drive away the liberal and moderate Republicans and you will loose elections. So pick your poison. Republican Liberty Caucus is a group of Republican congressmen. It has about tem members and Ron Paul is not the leader. Joe Scarborough was a member of this group when he was in congress. Campaign for Liberty is the actual card carrying Ron Paul group and they do not try to hide the fact that they would like to transform the Republican party into a constitutionist, limited government party. If they are kicked out they will probably join the Libertarians or start some other third party and work against the Repulicans and you will continue to loose elections. If you leave them in they will drive away the liberal and moderate Republicans and you will loose elections. So pick your poison.

]]> By: Eric Rowe http://www.ktracy.com/2009/is-your-state-rlc-constructive-or-destructive/comment-page-1/#comment-932 Eric Rowe Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:40:50 +0000 http://www.ktracy.com/?p=290#comment-932 So with 144 respondents, which is enough to be a decent sample of the readership of a blog that is pretty representative of Indiana party-line Republicans, the majority think that anyone who thinks we should have less government than we now do (which is the chief feature that distinguishes the RLC from the rest of the party), should be purged from the GOP. Interesting. So with 144 respondents, which is enough to be a decent sample of the readership of a blog that is pretty representative of Indiana party-line Republicans, the majority think that anyone who thinks we should have less government than we now do (which is the chief feature that distinguishes the RLC from the rest of the party), should be purged from the GOP. Interesting.

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